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Zachary

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

Before anyone says the ride can't start without restraints being engaged...

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Judging by that picture, Six Flags over Georgia runs Dahlonega Mine Train with open restraints for unused seats. It's operating procedures like this that destroy the reputation of the industry. Go die in a fire Six Flags.
 
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There are plenty of things that make this story seem sketchy, including the mother talking and the son using the term "lap bar". Not to mention the timing.
 

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Quite honestly, I don't care if it happened or not. Six Flags deserves every ounce of bad press they get when they run rides like this. The laundry list of safety issues resulting from poor maintenance or awful operations at Six Flags parks grows longer and longer each year. The company as a whole is making a mockery of all the safety measures everyone else implements and, via the magic of bad press over events like this, they end up negatively affecting everyone else in the industry.
 

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

The three rows of open restraints on the second train.

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

Look at the car in the middle, lap bars are up.

That ride is nearly 45 years old, and they throw a fit over lap bars where they're not even sitting. Yet Knoebels doesn't use airgates.
 
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Son said:
"Everybody else's bar was down and then they started the ride and I was so freaked out and I was trying to get my mom's attention by pointing down to my lap bar and yelling for the person to stop the ride and pull down my lap bar," Foster said.
So, he was yelling for them to put the lap bar for him? He didn't even try to secure himself, just as everyone else did? What, did he think it's Roller Coaster Tycoon?
Are there any witnesses? You have a train full of 'em, where the hell are they? Well, maayybeee.....it didn't happen. Yes, I will agree that Six Flags saftey and maintenance sucks, but this story can't be proven. It can't be falsified either, but lack of witnesses, in my mind, point to some dumb person who wanted some airtime.
 
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Zachary said:
Quite honestly, I don't care if it happened or not. Six Flags deserves every ounce of bad press they get when they run rides like this. The laundry list of safety issues resulting from poor maintenance or awful operations at Six Flags parks grows longer and longer each year. The company as a whole is making a mockery of all the safety measures everyone else implements and, via the magic of bad press over events like this, they end up negatively affecting everyone else in the industry.

I respectfully disagree Zach. Unfortunately no hard evidence exist to condemn either side (i.e. Six Flags is a terrible company that disregards safety or the lady is publicity seeking {bleep}. It is and may always be a he said she said situation. I have reservations about blaming either party.
 
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I wonder why the park needs to wait one week to say anything. I agree that their safety standards are terrible, still I would rather have proof.
It is a good point though, about the lap bars. I have no idea how the system works on that ride, so I don't believe either party yet.
 

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

There are some rides where it's within safe operation to dispatch trains with the lapbars up on empty rows only. These rides are incredibly rare these days and nearly all of them are in or approaching their 40s now. The Runaway Mine Train used to dispatch this way until the lap bars were overhauled when the ride was modernized (it got individual lapbars instead of one for the row), and I recall Cedar Creek Mine Ride at Cedar Point operating with the same practice in 2010. More modern coasters have sensors that indicate if a lapbar/OTSR is down and there are failsafes preventing the ride from dispatching even if a single unoccupied seat is left open, but older style rides like Dahlonega don't have those features and don't really need to worry about it when no one is riding in that particular row.

I don't know whether it was an actual issue or someone just making a grab for attention, but I will say this. That kid and their parent need to have their heads evaluated because they weren't able to pull down a simple lap bar. That sure helps my faith in humanity.
 

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

Also on note to my crack at Knoebels. I meant it in jest because if you've been there yourselves you'd know they have some of the most vigilant ride ops around, and they won't hesitate to yell at you if you do something wrong. Most people who go to Knoebels for the first time have the reaction of "Are you sure this isn't a glorified state fair carnival?" It's one of the safest parks in the country, even moreso than most of the major parks (Hi Six Flags, hi Cedar Fair).
 

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RE: Coaster "scare" at Six Flags Georgia

Shane said:
I honestly can't see if they are up or down in that photo.

Note the silver restraint bar against the front of the 2nd car and the lack of one in the front of the 3rd car. That's the restraint.
 
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If what Screamscape is saying is correct, then the evidence is starting to pile up against the lady's story. Still, without video or picture it is tough to make a call either way.

Screamscape

Edited By Shane:
Here, lets quote this for those who are lazy or don't want to bother with all of ScreamScapes ads.

ScreamScape.com said:
Let the paranoia begin… now everyone is worried about if their lap bars are locked down on coasters everywhere and overreacting. Case in point… the local news in Atlanta posted this report where a mother watching her 7 year old son take a ride on the Dahlonega Mine Train freaked out when her son thought his lap bar wasn’t down. She screamed and says she got the ride ops to stop the train, but Six Flags over Georgia officials state that the train never left the station with the lap bar up. Of course, this is an old Arrow Mine Train we are talking about, where the lap bars on all three rows of each car are manually lowered by the operator at once. Lock one row… all three are locked, and the lap bar lowers equally to the same position in all throw rows as well. This means that a 7-year old boy sitting by himself is going to look like his lap bar is up higher away from his body than it is for any larger riders in the other two rows, but it is still locked down. Click here to see a great shot of a ride op about ready to step on the lapbar pedal in the front of the train to lock down the first three rows all at once, without having to touch the actual lapbar in the second row where the boys have their hands raised.

Peter R: Thank You for putting the actually quote into my post Shane!
 
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