News California’s Great America Project 2023: NorCal County Fair & Pacific Gliders
- Thread starter Coasterguy95
- Start date
I know this is off topic, so please move this to a new thread—however, this is a pretty significant investment for a park set to close in a decade. I wonder if they could have decided to reverse the decision to close the park, or the city could have given them incentives to keep it around?
I mean, you're talking about what this ride might mean for the park, which feels thread-relevant to me.
Anyway, if CF's plans for the park have changed, wouldn't they announce as much? I feel like people will read way too much into this ride, especially if the purchase was made before the land sale. Even if they bought it after the sale, they'd want to maximize attendance while the park is still open, and not give it an air of "closing imminently". Their current lease could last for over a decade after all. That's plenty of time for return-of-investment for this addition, and then, they get an only-10-year-old ride to relocate to another park.
I moved the discussion and created a new thread after @Coasternerd posted that reply. I appreciate the acknowledgement that a discussion of a new ride and a land retheme at CGA is off-topic in a thread in the KD sub-forum.
The reason I say it’s significant is that fact they’re doing a full themed area, which other parks have been receiving. It’s not as extensive, mind you, but still a thing to think about.
There’s a change the local government might not allow the land to be rezoned.
The financial impact of the sale being nixed is significant enough that CF would have to say something about it as publicly-traded company. This project is too minor to assume anything had changed.
It would be one thing if the park was due to close in a year or two. But with as long as a decade to go under the current terms, the park still needs to make some investments to maintain crowds and remain profitable. A flat ride here or there may do that.
Oh, absolutely. There is a chance that the park stays thanks to the local government, or in the event the situation changes between ProLogis and Cedar Fair. But these investments into the park are spawning wild theories that Cedar Fair has some secret plan, or that there's more going on than the public really knows, and it just screams of hopium and copium. Like:
-The sale was a ploy by CF to hardball the city into giving them more power (CF being soured after the cancelled Hyper plans)
-ProLogis just wanted a way to bank some money without it being taxed, and don't really intend to do anything with the land
-This was all CF just selling the land and leasing it for the park, like was suggested that Six Flags do with their parks, as a way to make money.
The local government might intervene somehow to make the zoning difficult. ProLogis may lose interest in the land, or Cedar Fair may decide to buy it back. Lots of things could happen. But right now, the situation is: Cedar Fair sold the land. The park is set to close in 11 years. The lease could possibly be extended, at least once according to the ProLogis deal, but otherwise there's nothing to suggest the park will last beyond that.
Edit: Not trying to sound cold. My heart goes out to the locals and everyone who loves this park. But false hope doesn't help anyone.
Last edited:
For the time being CF is operating this park and trying to turn a profit. Not improving the park or letting it deteriorate would jeopardize profits.
This is not a huge investment. It’s a lower cost Zamperla ride (which can be relocated) and refreshing an area of the park. Perhaps just enough to maintain attendance this year and keep profitable.
The new area name is odd. It describes it as themed to the outdoors of Northern Cal, but it’s a county fair?
This is not a huge investment. It’s a lower cost Zamperla ride (which can be relocated) and refreshing an area of the park. Perhaps just enough to maintain attendance this year and keep profitable.
The new area name is odd. It describes it as themed to the outdoors of Northern Cal, but it’s a county fair?
Last edited: