Look at all of you straying from the topic, Drachen Fire. I believe there is a point to that, 1) Kingsmil Rules, 2) They used the same melted down material from Drachen Fire to build Griffon. Which makes sense because they are recycling like that. 3) Huge coincidence that Griffon just happen to be a flying creature that is naturally red/oragangish/yellowish and Drachen Fire is a flying creature that is the same as a Griffon, the only difference is ones a dragon and one breathes fire. Oh BTW - Fur Dozy, I made that other thread you were talking about, it's in the Everything Else Forum.