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I have heard that the design of the new RMC restraints prohibits wearing fanny packs for safety reasons; the same rule is reportedly enforced at Steel Vengeance. The reason I believe this is true is that the park's other two coasters where loose articles are not permitted in the queue or station, Flight of Fear and I305, both allow fanny packs.

I do know that there is such a thing as phone lockers, which are just like regular lockers but extremely compact. If the park really wants to address the loose phone situation, they could install a ton of those without taking up a lot of space and offer them free of charge. They would still profit from guests needing to stow other loose articles, and guests would have less of a reason to "smuggle" phones on the ride if they were given an easy, free, and safe place to store them.
 

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I have heard that the design of the new RMC restraints prohibits wearing fanny packs for safety reasons; the same rule is reportedly enforced at Steel Vengeance. The reason I believe this is true is that the park's other two coasters where loose articles are not permitted in the queue or station, Flight of Fear and I305, both allow fanny packs.

I do know that there is such a thing as phone lockers, which are just like regular lockers but extremely compact. If the park really wants to address the loose phone situation, they could install a ton of those without taking up a lot of space and offer them free of charge. They would still profit from guests needing to stow other loose articles, and guests would have less of a reason to "smuggle" phones on the ride if they were given an easy, free, and safe place to store them.
To me the problem isn't people just bringing their phones on and leaving them in their pockets. Most of the time when there is an incident, it is because someone took their phone out to either get an unauthorized POV or to take a picture or something. And having dropboxes for phones wouldn't prevent this, since people want the footage. They would need to enact a policy of "all persons seen with a mobile device out on the ride will be removed from the park" to really discourage it.

Not only that, the people who are conscious that their phone needs to be secured already place it in a bag or in a zipped up pocket if available, with a slim percentage of those conscious saying "I think my pocket will be okay". It's usually the people oblivious to the potential danger of bringing something on the ride in your pocket. The same morons who would wear a hat or glasses onto a ride. There is nothing you can do about those people.

The reality is in a couple months this won't be a problem, people are just taking their phones out since it is a new ride and coaster enthusiasts are creaming over a local RMC. Once the hype is gone it'll be no big deal. The park should have been more aware that this was going to be an issue and prepared accordingly, with more signage or putting up netting in places where guests below could get struck. Not saying it is the park's fault, but it is like defensive driving, try to prevent the problem just so you don't have to deal with it.
 
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As weird as I thought it was initially for Busch Gardens to hand out phanny packs for Tempesto, perhaps this is really what Kings Dominion needs to do with Twisted Timbers. If you handed out phanny packs, people would be significantly less likley to "smuggle" their phones on to the ride.

On the flip side, when I went to KD last month, the cast member manning the entrance actually forced me to remove my phanny pack and put it in a locker to enter the queue. I thought it absolutely ridiculous since it was totally secured through belt loops.
Manufacturer policy, they don't want Fanny Packs on the ride because it has the potential to interfere with the restraint.
 

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To me the problem isn't people just bringing their phones on and leaving them in their pockets. Most of the time when there is an incident, it is because someone took their phone out to either get an unauthorized POV or to take a picture or something. And having dropboxes for phones wouldn't prevent this, since people want the footage. They would need to enact a policy of "all persons seen with a mobile device out on the ride will be removed from the park" to really discourage it.

Not only that, the people who are conscious that their phone needs to be secured already place it in a bag or in a zipped up pocket if available, with a slim percentage of those conscious saying "I think my pocket will be okay". It's usually the people oblivious to the potential danger of bringing something on the ride in your pocket. The same morons who would wear a hat or glasses onto a ride. There is nothing you can do about those people.

The reality is in a couple months this won't be a problem, people are just taking their phones out since it is a new ride and coaster enthusiasts are creaming over a local RMC. Once the hype is gone it'll be no big deal. The park should have been more aware that this was going to be an issue and prepared accordingly, with more signage or putting up netting in places where guests below could get struck. Not saying it is the park's fault, but it is like defensive driving, try to prevent the problem just so you don't have to deal with it.
I'm curious about the source of this information?
 
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I'm curious about the source of this information?
That is my logic towards it. Sure it will happen where a device falls out of a pocket, but I personally think it happens much more when someone has their device out for some reason. For example Griffon, there are always a bunch of devices at the bottom of that first drop, and if you think about it, how could a straight down drop cause devices to fall out of a pocket unless it was barely in there on the first place? Which would've required them to take their device out of their pocket in between the time they sat down in the ride vehicle and got to the drop, because if you are standing when you place a device in your pocket naturally it places itself deeper into the pocket (most of the time, assuming average pocket) than when you are sitting down. Heck if I am driving and I put my phone in my pocket while sitting it will fall out while I am sitting, but if it goes in my pocket before I sit it doesn't fall out.

If you look at the other side of the bridge where the Immelman takes place, I don't think I have ever really seen a device in that netting or below. But the side by the drop I have seen devices down there plenty of times.

I was just saying in my opinion that more devices are lost during rides because of unsafe practice in the form of using the device and such, hence why this loose article problem stems mostly from phones and cameras, people doing what they really are not supposed to do. All KD could really do to fully prevent it is to watch lift hill cameras closely and do what a lot of parks used to do, stop the ride, retrieve the device, resume the ride, kick the guest.

I wasn't trying to say anyone was wrong, there is no source of my information. After all, it's just a discussion, right? Lets get some differing points of view
 
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I rode twice yesterday evening with my kids and despite the new signage, there were TONS of people in line on their phones and the park employees didn't say a word to anyone. If they're really going to prohibit it, they need to have the staff actually say something.

After nearly getting my head taken off by a cellphone at BGT a few years ago, I always make a point of wearing pants with a zippered pocket. Technically I suppose that's still against the rules, but unless there's an alternative to getting a locker just to stick my phone in, that's the route I'm going.
 
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For example Griffon, there are always a bunch of devices at the bottom of that first drop, and if you think about it, how could a straight down drop cause devices to fall out of a pocket unless it was barely in there on the first place?
To be fair I have lost an iPhone 4 on Griffon's drop. I shoved it in the top cargo pocket without thinking and it squirted out then dropped on the mcbr. Point and case shit happens.
 

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To be fair I have lost an iPhone 4 on Griffon's drop. I shoved it in the top cargo pocket without thinking and it squirted out then dropped on the mcbr. Point and case shit happens.
Yeah I was talking about the devices that are at the bottom of the first drop only, yours could've loosened up when you inverted in the immelman, causing the device to shift towards the entry of your pocket more. I totally understand that they can fall out of your pocket, it has happened to me. I just think it is interesting to see how many are just at the bottom of that 90 drop because it is indicative of how many people actually do just drop their phone
 
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To be fair I have lost an iPhone 4 on Griffon's drop. I shoved it in the top cargo pocket without thinking and it squirted out then dropped on the mcbr. Point and case shit happens.
Not sure what his appetite is like now but back in 2010 when my friend's dad was still working there (he's since retired), Griffon ate about 3,000 phones that year alone. Apollo's Chariot has a pretty big hunger for them too.
 
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Not sure what his appetite is like now but back in 2010 when my friend's dad was still working there (he's since retired), Griffon ate about 3,000 phones that year alone. Apollo's Chariot has a pretty big hunger for them too.
El Toro would have 20 phones minimum found in the ride area every single night before their loose article policy got tightened up. Twisted Timbers was very likely putting up similar numbers.
 

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Cedar Fair itself issues a policy, all phones are prohibited on TT and Steel Vengeance and must be placed in a locker, all guests seen in line with a phone will be asked to leave
 
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I've been told that operators are now enforcing the no-phone policy more strictly. Guests who are seen with their phones out in the station are handed a blue sheet of paper telling them to place their phone in a locker; the blue sheet allows them to re-enter the line from either the Fast Lane entrance or the exit (I can't remember which).
 
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I've been told that operators are now enforcing the no-phone policy more strictly. Guests who are seen with their phones out in the station are handed a blue sheet of paper telling them to place their phone in a locker; the blue sheet allows them to re-enter the line from either the Fast Lane entrance or the exit (I can't remember which).
I hope it's fast lane, as having guests come through the exit would delay operations having to hold rows.
 
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