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I'm pretty sure this is Intamin. But, if I were Seas, I'd have had a serious chat with them after their Parc Asterix reveal. Looking at the slide (yes, THAT slide), the silhouette pretty much is consistent with the BGW projected layout. Which means they've been in discussions and planning for a while. Now comes the Parc Asterix reveal and all of the unique elements, etc. Based on the projected layout at BGW all of those might not be utilized here. As an example, I don't see any indication of the below terrain dips, etc. prior to the switch track. And that stuff, to me, looks pretty cool.

Sure, if we get what's in the projected layout, great! But I'm betting Seas said to Intamin "hey, thanks for showing people what they're NOT getting."
 
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Eh....I believe the BGW one is going to be different enough. And if it's going to be THAT big, I doubt it uses any of those elements anyways.
 
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It’s 100% an Intamin. No other manufacturer has this sort of design.
See verbolten.

Almost none of these are "new", and out of all these, one is a roller coaster. And it opened nearly 10 years ago. That's not new either.
Falcons and Infinity are two of the of the newest intsalls in the US. Cheetah is the 3rd most recent Intamin Coaster in the US. I don't know how wavebreaker has been but thats the only coaster that could possibly be a good witness for Intamin at this point. I'll be very interested to see how it all pans out. Honestly I do hope that it's an Intamin, but the track record they have with SEAS is just slightly better than Moser at this point.
 
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they were broke. They are still not healthy. Frankly some could argue that this is risky investment.
I don’t think they’d be broke if they’re building 5 coasters in 2020

And I say this because I’ve seen some people (not necessarily here) say that SeaWorld hates Intamin and won’t work with them.
 

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SeaWorld hates Intamin and won’t work with them
The only park that has a noticeable avoidance with Intamin is Williamsburg, and has been stated previously, is a result of Giles.

My guess as to why Intamin has seen a dry streak in the US is because they have been dethroned as the go-to manufacturer for big time thrills, as RMC has been delivering that lately. If you aren't going for high risky thrill, you aren't going with Intamin, as B&M and Mack are considered widely more reliable, and are kinda the safe move.
 
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The only park that has a noticeable avoidance with Intamin is Williamsburg, and has been stated previously, is a result of Giles.

My guess as to why Intamin has seen a dry streak in the US is because they have been dethroned as the go-to manufacturer for big time thrills, as RMC has been delivering that lately. If you aren't going for high risky thrill, you aren't going with Intamin, as B&M and Mack are considered widely more reliable, and are kinda the safe move.
The thing about Giles is that he didn't leave SeaWorld. He is now the person who runs D&E at the corporate level. I think it always came down more to other manufacturers being able to provide something more specific with what BGW was going for than simply avoiding Intamin altogether.

Also he didn't leave for Orlando that long ago so he was definitely involved heavily in this ride. So I don't think it could be said that the only reason that BGW would be getting an Intamin is because he left.
 

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I wasn't saying it is because he left. It is well known that Giles had tensions with Intamin for years. I'm saying that's why for years, BGW never bothered with getting an Intamin. Of course it's not the ONLY reason, but it contributed.
 
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I wasn't saying it is because he left. It is well known that Giles had tensions with Intamin for years. I'm saying that's why for years, BGW never bothered with getting an Intamin. Of course it's not the ONLY reason, but it contributed.
Fair enough. I didn't mean to insinuate that you were saying that as your statement was that it had been stated previously. I was more just commenting that there were other factors that contributed not just that he didn't Intamin
 
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The only park that has a noticeable avoidance with Intamin is Williamsburg, and has been stated previously, is a result of Giles.

My guess as to why Intamin has seen a dry streak in the US is because they have been dethroned as the go-to manufacturer for big time thrills, as RMC has been delivering that lately. If you aren't going for high risky thrill, you aren't going with Intamin, as B&M and Mack are considered widely more reliable, and are kinda the safe move.
Mack only has a handful of large rides. Cobra's curse and time traveler has downtime. The largest mack in the us is opening @ carowinds. I dont understand why people are so quick to appoint mack as in the same sentance as large players like b&m.
 
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FYI - According to the Wiki, the last Intamin installation in the USA was Wave Breaker at SWSA in 2017. Prior to that was 2014 at Universal Florida and Skyrush in 2012.

RCDB shows them building 3 in the USA opening this year (one at Universal Studios) and 1 (BGW) in '20.

Bottom line - who cares? IF they are the builder/designer, then obviously Seas feels comfortable with the agreement. I don't care who builds the ride. I never heard of Zierer yet I enjoy Verbolten. And I don't care if Seas got a new line of credit, went to a payday loan place or won the lottery to pay for it. All I care is the park I love to frequent is continuing to be viable and a fun place to dump a lot of money.

Now about that balloon in Festhaus Park....
 
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I don't understand the need for a bridge over the train tracks. Why didn't they just use the already paved area that crosses the tracks next to the rapids. It's not like they don't have crossings elsewhere in the park.
 
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I don't understand the need for a bridge over the train tracks. Why didn't they just use the already paved area that crosses the tracks next to the rapids. It's not like they don't have crossings elsewhere in the park.
I agree. The bridge seems like a lot cost for very little return. Using the existing at-grade crossing would pull people further back into Italy giving more exposure to an area that always seems dead.
 
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You'd have to think this ride is the beginning of an Expansion. No way they go through all of the effort of building a bridge just for a coaster.
 
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