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Nicole said:
I would imagine they don’t need to use a broomstick: they can apparate.  Riding a broomstick sounds fairly undignified, to be honest.
Yes! Yes this! But let's explore the scene wherein Albus and Harry are in the cave in search of the locket. They can't cross the water because of various extras from the Thriller video. For some reason the use of the boat is necessary but that lends the question of why no broomstic? Surely Mr. Dumblydoor would know how to traverse such a terrain.

And that's all without mentioning that, to your point, he and Harry didn't just disapparate across the way... Same argument. JK seems to pride herself on having thought out all these loopholes, so in that spirit one assumes that Volderepublican would have prevented such magic. Yet it isn't specified. So all bets are off.

Edit: Also, on behalf of Hocus Pocus wherein these ladies rode *literally* whatever was on hand in the closet, a broomstick is *always* in fashion.
 
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Merboy said:
Nicole said:
I would imagine they don’t need to use a broomstick: they can apparate.  Riding a broomstick sounds fairly undignified, to be honest.
Yes! Yes this! But let's explore the scene wherein Albus and Harry are in the cave in search of the locket. They can't cross the water because of various extras from the Thriller video. For some reason the use of the boat is necessary but that lends the question of why no broomstic? Surely Mr. Dumblydoor would know how to traverse such a terrain.

And that's all without mentioning that, to your point, he and Harry didn't just disapparate across the way... Same argument. JK seems to pride herself on having thought out all these loopholes, so in that spirit one assumes that Volderepublican would have prevented such magic. Yet it isn't specified. So all bets are off.

Edit: Also, on behalf of Hocus Pocus wherein these ladies rode *literally* whatever was on hand in the closet, a broomstick is *always* in fashion.
I would have to go back and check the book, but my recollection is that Voldemort set it up so a seeker would have to accomplish specific tasks in specific ways in order to get the horcrux. That is a fairly standard trope in fantasy quests, too. He made have enchanted the cave do that other magicks didn’t work, as well.
 

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UncleDuncan said:
This is all we need to know about Harry Potter.
Ooooo yes, you have stumbled upon the formula for sci-fi/fantasy writing. I.e. Old man fosters young man who is of "special birth" in order to fulfill his destiny of conquering a main villain, almost always preceded by lesser villains of graduating degrees of power. Once I learned this I was like "well, dang", and I could never watch HP nor LotR or Dune or anything ever again the same. Kind of took the flavor out of it. But then again, it does suggest that the human spirit exists and enjoys a good, stable, tried-and-true story about an everyman who makes good. Because really, we all have that potential and it's heartening to see it in action.

Thomas said:
Can one ride a broomstick sidesaddle?
I almost broke my wrist trying to google image Samantha on that broomstick but thank Endora UD beat me to it! Lol! As it happens, I'm watching the whole series right now. #IKnowYouDidntAskBut Elizabeth Montgomery was a huge LGBTQIA(batman symbol)#(eggplant emoji) advocate and insisted on hiring gay and lesbian actors, including the second Darrin. In fact, she led a parade or two for Pride.

Nicole said:
I would have to go back and check the book, but my recollection is that Voldemort set it up so a seeker would have to accomplish specific tasks in specific ways in order to get the horcrux.  That is a fairly standard trope in fantasy quests, too.  He made have enchanted the cave do that other magicks didn’t work, as well.
You sorceress! Yes, now that you say that it rings a bell. I do believe you're right. I think Voldetrump cast some sort of enchantment that negated a lot of the obviously-they-would-do-this spells. I would hate to say that JK used blanket spells to cover these sort of conundrums but honestly... [sub]maybe she did[/sub]. Nevertheless, the task was, as mentioned above, set for Harry to discover that his mentor was indeed human and that his greatest adversary was also human. And from humanity all good and evil spring. Which is debatably the most important message Rowling had to give us: be kind, do good, and most of all stand up to evil where ever it exists, otherwise it will triump.
 

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Well sure, if we’re being perfectly honest, yeah, I’d more than a little bit likely in the heat of the moment literally die to save a puppy. But go off I guess.
 
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That's adorable! 😄

BTW I have a really good question for those who have streaming services like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime etc. Why do some critically minded people think that TV shows going for full serialization was the industry's big mistake? I grew up in the late 90's early 2000's where most of the shows I watched were mostly episodic with little to no story in them, and by the time when 2010 came along, I noticed more and more shows (especially cartoons) were focusing on more serialization with episodic episodes sprinkled in there. To me, serialization is TV shows trying something different than what came before it and I'm the sort of viewer who happens to love both methods of how the show is run (Voltron: Legendary Defender and Trollhunters on Netflix are prime examples of how to do a serialized/episodic show right).

What do you think?
 
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I prefer shows that are some combination of serial and episodic.

I've always assumed that producers serialized TV shows to further engage the audience and create suspense between episodes, hoping to increase viewership of the entire TV series and minimize mid-season drop-offs. Shows that are purely episodic can be watched individually, whereas a serialized show is more often watched as a whole, guaranteeing higher audience numbers.

That's just speculation on my part. I actually have no idea.
 
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I agree. I think serialization has become so popular since it is an excellent way to keep people hooked on the show so they keep printing money. I get annoyed at the lack of conclusion with serialized shows, so I too enjoy a combination of each. Shows like Scrubs, where continuously you follow someone's journey through their hospital life, and you'll miss out on some inside information if you skip through, but still episodic that each episode has its own story arc that adds to the overarching story.

Shows like Walking Dead and Game of Thrones made me so irritated attempting to watch and get some conclusion, I gave up a season or two in.
 

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Two really good examples of both serialized storytelling and episodic structure done very well are BoJack Horseman and Avatar: The Last Airbender. Speaking of Netflix shows, I'm very excited for these two upcoming animated shows that have promise: The Dragon Prince (Aaron Ehasz who was the head writer on A:TLA is the creator) is coming Sept 14th and She-Ra and the Princesses of Power (developed by Nimona's creator Noelle Stevenson) that's coming Nov 16th. I'm so happy I have Netflix. 😁

But sometimes I like full on serialization like GLOW, Sense 8, and the dark, adult animated adaptation of Castlevania.
 
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I would imagine writers prefer multi-episode story arcs for two good reasons:

1. It gives them a chance to develop more complex story-lines and fully-fleshed-out characters; and
2. It prevents them from falling into a Law & Order-like rut of telling endless similar stories following a predictable structure.
 
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