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Santa's Workshop has a very temporary setup. I do think they could easily set it up and take it down for the most part. The problem then might be setting the lounge up and taking it down. I don't know how hard it could be, but Santa's Workshop is about 80% curtains, and I couldn't see FrostBite lasting much longer.
Yeah no, Santa’s workshop is quite the opposite it is not temporary at all. Busch has used EVERY INCH of NeuKastle for the things that reside in it.
 
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Those walls might look like curtains, but they are actual plywood walls bolted into the floor.

The park made sure to make FB, DD, and SW all very permanent structures.

even if it were temporary, like i said, look at cornered. that is a temporary house setup all year long because it cost money and time to take it down and put it up every year. if you keep it up all year, you save on so much time and money.
 
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They look a lot like curtains if they aren't curtains. They really cheapen the look of Santa's Workshop. This room might be big enough for a member lounge if they removed the Christmas trees. They could even use part of the workshop room (which is definitely hard walls), and give it a different overlay.
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Frostbite is directly behind that curtain/wall, and to get to the winter wonderland they would have to remove the stables portion as well, They also would have to change all the custom lighting setups. There most definitely isn't enough room. The idea of a member lounge sounds awesome, a perk that I would enjoy as a premier member, but I don't think Darkastle is a plausible option, especially for something that would need to be changed every ChristmasTown. Could the Willcommen house be used? It seems that everything that's been there has been temporary?
 
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Ok, from a standpoint of if they wanted to make absolutely no changes to the Santa setup and then poor planning of the HOS mazes setup inside DK then even I agree that there is no room. However, there is no reason, other than than money and the lack of interest by the park to rework the santa area, two mazes and a lounge to all fit. The oversized rooms and unthemed paths in both mazes is a massive part of the failure of both houses to me. Here is another thought...yes it involves money....have one maze on the first floor and one on the second. Thats right creat a second floor for a maze or better yet create a second floor and put the members lounge up there with special rooms at HOS that they open us just for the haunt event that look down into the mazes. With the size of the building there could be gradual ramps built around the outer edges to avoid the need for elevators to make it accessable. To say there is no room thought is like putting one shoe in the middle of s shoebox and saying theres no room for a second. With a little reworking and money it could be done.
 
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So with the new "Membership Discount" for 2019 they are ofering up to 20% off for joining. So if my Premier membership when I joined in March or 2018 goes up to $22 this march but if I cancel and buy a new Platinum at the price of $23.19 with the 20% discount they are offering I can get the ride again access for $1.19 more a month that what I will be paying if I keep my current plan. Am I reading into this right? So by buying a new plan every year you get a discount but if you are loyal and renew you no discount? Shouldnt there be a renewal rate.....
 
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Ok, from a standpoint of if they wanted to make absolutely no changes to the Santa setup and then poor planning of the HOS mazes setup inside DK then even I agree that there is no room. However, there is no reason, other than than money and the lack of interest by the park to rework the santa area, two mazes and a lounge to all fit. The oversized rooms and unthemed paths in both mazes is a massive part of the failure of both houses to me. Here is another thought...yes it involves money....have one maze on the first floor and one on the second. Thats right creat a second floor for a maze or better yet create a second floor and put the members lounge up there with special rooms at HOS that they open us just for the haunt event that look down into the mazes. With the size of the building there could be gradual ramps built around the outer edges to avoid the need for elevators to make it accessable. To say there is no room thought is like putting one shoe in the middle of s shoebox and saying theres no room for a second. With a little reworking and money it could be done.
Again, you seriously are overthinking the amount of room in Darkastle. Every venue is wall to wall and connected to an entrance or exit meaning no matter which way you slice it there is no way a lounge could fit, that's just my opinion, also there is no way the structure of Darkastle could handle a second story right? Correct me if I'm wrong, is there even enough height. Does anyone know if the Willkomen house would be plausible?
 
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Again, you seriously are overthinking the amount of room in Darkastle. Every venue is wall to wall and connected to an entrance or exit meaning no matter which way you slice it there is no way a lounge could fit, that's just my opinion, also there is no way the structure of Darkastle could handle a second story right? Correct me if I'm wrong, is there even enough height. Does anyone know if the Willkomen house would be plausible?
There is enough room but I find it highly unlikely that the park would spend the kind of cash that it would take to build a second story area just for a lounge. And honestly if they did even as much as I would like one I would seriously question if it was money well spent.

Willkomen is also not likely. The location by LofD is ideal for a ice cream shop so I don't see them moving that. Also it has found fairly profitable use seasonally house the escape rooms and Mrs Clause's cookie shop.

Personally I think Castle O'Sullivan might be z goin choice as it seems to be under utilized most of the year.
 
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So I had an interesting idea today (shower thoughts really) on this topic.

Last offseason that filing posted for a building being RPT, and it was an ok size. So what if instead of retro-fitting a building to be a members lounge, they built one new ground up? Yes I know that's an expense for the park but picture this:

A gate that looks like the entrance to a French Palace, where you show your membership to get it. A beautiful walkway that is grass and gardens back to the building. 3 story building+basement designed to look like a French chateau. 1st floor is a general lounge. Indoor seating, outdoor patio facing the train as it passes by. Nice chairs out there. Basically a welcoming relaxation area. Floor 2 is a members only sit down dining area with indoor/outdoor seating. Full service menu. 3rd floor is mostly open terrace, but it's a roof top bar that's 21+ only. Tall enough for night time fireworks viewing, a view into RPT for night time shows as well. I mentioned a basement, and that would be the wine cellar. Another 21+ only area that's strictly a wine bar. Put it down under the building so you really feel like you are in a chateau's cellar.

Entrance is at RPT's entrance, flip the concessions stand to the other side of the walkway, make it wider for the member lounge entrance exit.

Now you got a nice members only area/lounge, but it's out of the way, never in a threat to be taken over by something else, and you feel like you get your money's worth.
 
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Here is the basic information. We have also created a spreadsheet comparing old and new Memberships, which should be out soon. Apparently we are grandfathered for 12 months (from purchase) under the old plan. That said, I have trouble believing that we will actually be able to use Old Premier in Florida...

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Unless I overlooked it in the thread but did anyone notice they dropped the price from $28.99 to $23.19. that is a lot more palatable than the $28.99.
 
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Unless I overlooked it in the thread but did anyone notice they dropped the price from $28.99 to $23.19. that is a lot more palatable than the $28.99.
That is with 20% discount promotion that they are offering for new members if you sign up for ezpay or outright buy a new pass. My contract runs out in March and suposedly at that time my cost will change to $22 from the $20 a month for Premier or for a $1 more I am guessing I could drop my current plan and start a new one and get the ride again access by switching to a Platinum membership.
 
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So I had an interesting idea today (shower thoughts really) on this topic.

Last offseason that filing posted for a building being RPT, and it was an ok size. So what if instead of retro-fitting a building to be a members lounge, they built one new ground up? Yes I know that's an expense for the park but picture this:

A gate that looks like the entrance to a French Palace, where you show your membership to get it. A beautiful walkway that is grass and gardens back to the building. 3 story building+basement designed to look like a French chateau. 1st floor is a general lounge. Indoor seating, outdoor patio facing the train as it passes by. Nice chairs out there. Basically a welcoming relaxation area. Floor 2 is a members only sit down dining area with indoor/outdoor seating. Full service menu. 3rd floor is mostly open terrace, but it's a roof top bar that's 21+ only. Tall enough for night time fireworks viewing, a view into RPT for night time shows as well. I mentioned a basement, and that would be the wine cellar. Another 21+ only area that's strictly a wine bar. Put it down under the building so you really feel like you are in a chateau's cellar.

Entrance is at RPT's entrance, flip the concessions stand to the other side of the walkway, make it wider for the member lounge entrance exit.

Now you got a nice members only area/lounge, but it's out of the way, never in a threat to be taken over by something else, and you feel like you get your money's worth.
BGW really needs to hire you.
 
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