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01/22/16 at 10:59am in The Future of Europe In The Air
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If that is true, then I wonder what role might have been played by the massive dynamic forces applied to the foundation/ground by the two simulators in motion over the years. The reaction forces must be immense.
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01/22/16 at 05:03pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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I wonder. One day, I was stuck in a code purple(?) storm, and so I sought out refuge in the Europe in the Air building. I was sitting in the room right before the first pre-show room. As soon as they started testing, I could feel the ground shaking like a mini earthquake. It was somewhat exciting, actually.

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01/25/16 at 12:26pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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Questor was the best; all of the others that came after were just okay, but not interesting. King Arthur's Challenge made me violently ill. Corkscrew Hill, while interesting, eventually also made me ill due to lack of upkeep of the 3D screens. I can handle Europe In the Air, but it's no Questor. I know the tech for Questor is super old now, but I'd love a reboot of that.
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01/25/16 at 02:15pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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I honestly don't like sim-rides in general. However I have to agree with Imaginique, Questor was the best. I found Corkscrew hill to be cringe worthy, EIA to be just bad, and... lets not discuss KAC.

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01/28/16 at 01:41pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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The first time we went to BGW Corkscrew Hill was in it's last year. We liked it (though the audio was really hard to understand; I've seen it on youtube since, and understood it just fine, they needed a better audio system).

We only went to the park once that year, so we only rode Corkscrew Hill the one time. Been on EIA a bunch of times, and we think that Corkscrew Hill was much better.

They never should have tried to copy Disney's Soaring. A 3D animated movie that fits the theme of Ireland is, I think, a great concept. I think they should put in a remake of Corkscrew Hill, with:

- Better audio (EIA is instrumental only, but it seems to me they have this now)

- Keep the premise (magically transported to Ireland at a time of mythical beasts), but get rid of the kids as starting points, and use the mythical beasts mentioned in the preshow. In fact, I would use the same preshow video, just rerecord the audio for it.
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01/28/16 at 04:18pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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The dialogue often got muddied up by people chatting and yelling the way people do on regular rides. I don't know if they can do much about this. The added dialog on EITA is also hard to understand, but that is semi-deliberate in order to sound like radio conversation.

During the last year of Corkscrew Hill, they played the ride walkout music in the wildlife reserve scarezone, "Mischief and Mayhem". I wanted to record it on my iPhone, but whoever was with me said "Oh, I'm sure it will be here next year." Obviously it wasn't, and I didn't get to record it. Such a bummer.

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01/28/16 at 06:13pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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Maybe somebody got a recording, you'd just have to find it. Lets start the search everyone!

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01/28/16 at 09:47pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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EITA has five years at the max in my opinion. It rarely has long wait times and is closed for HOS and CT meaning it's closed for a good chunk of the season. Ireland needs a headliner attraction and it doesn't really have one unless you consider CF which is one of my favorite shows produced by the park. I have a few ideas I'd love to see them do:

1. Close EITA. Board up the entrance as I imagine it can be some what costly to operate the simulator and SEAS in it's current finanical state doesn't need to continue operation on this lackluster attraction. As a replacement attraction to help with capacity have a small bird show in the RPT from opening day to mid August.

2. Bring back Corkscrew Hill except re-master the film so it will be of a higher quality and fit with the new projectors. Also, maybe add smells to the ride such as the smell of ocean water.

3. Gut the interior of EITA show building and the COS so there would be room for a massive trackless dark ride using the technology from Antartica at SWO. Maybe a trip to the nether world as a throwback to COS? Tongue

4. A Mack spinning coaster similar to Cobra's Curse that uses the show building for dark ride scenes and a themed queue and then the outside portion in between the England parking lot and England itself.

5. As mentioned before in idea three gut EITA and COS except instead of a trackless dark ride what about a dynamic attractions SFX coaster like Escape from Gringotts? While it would be expensive BGW has done a dark ride similar to Uni on a cheaper and smaller scale and still delivered a one of a kind experience, back in 2005. Other than Uni and the SFX coaster going into Ferrari World this would be a very unique attraction that would most likely boost attendance similar to the 8% boost that park experienced in 2005 when they opened Darkastle.

6. This would be a more practical idea but just re-theme the queue and add a new film. It could be made by the park or purchased either way it would be something fresh and exciting for Ireland which is needed at the moment.

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01/31/16 at 11:12pm in The Future of Europe In The Air (Latest Edit: 01/31/16 at 11:13pm by Zachary.)
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(01/28/16 09:47pm)Connor Wrote:  Ireland needs a headliner attraction and it doesn't really have one unless you consider CF which is one of my favorite shows produced by the park.

The problem is even more severe than that honestly- that whole corner of the park desperately needs an e-ticket and it has for decades. Walking the optimal route, the path from Loch Ness Monster to Griffon is over 2,000 feet long- up and down a number of hills. The next longest walk without an e-ticket is the walk from Apollo to Verbolten at just over 1,600 feet and between those two attractions, there are six flat rides to fill the gap. The walk from Loch Ness to Griffon doesn't feature a single ride if you don't count Europe in the Air (which you shouldn't considering its very limited operating season).

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02/01/16 at 03:48pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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Bottom line, to me, is that if they want to keep a simulator ride, it has to be popular enough that they have to keep it open for Christmastown.

Quick list of must haves:
1. Not make people sick from riding it
2. Fit the theme of the hamlet
3. Interesting story line
4. Good audio

Here's a thought: have its grand opening during Christmastown! It would give people something to do when the park first opens besides riding Little Clydes over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.
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02/02/16 at 07:50am in The Future of Europe In The Air
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I was looking at the aerial view of Ireland and it looks like the ride building could be expanded in size, perhaps even doubled, without it being seen from any other part of the park. There are no vantage points from within the park and the trees are thick enough to hide it. If the building were updated and expanded I think you could easily fit an interactive dark ride or maybe something that uses Antarctica's track less technology. I think anything like this would be able to operate all year and would be very popular.
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02/02/16 at 07:48pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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(01/31/16 11:12pm)Zachary Wrote:  The walk from Loch Ness to Griffon doesn't feature a single ride if you don't count Europe in the Air

That hasn't even occurred to me in a long time. One problem though is that the park has always been very strategic about where they place rides and where they don't. The original developers and higher-ups were adamant about the park having a tranquil "garden" atmosphere, with minimal noise interference to separate it from being an amusement park. They added two exception areas(Oktoberfest and Festa Italia), and built San Marco to be a garden for ride contraptions.

That is one of few things about the park that hasn't changed. They would have to be very strategic in order to not lose the "natural" atmosphere charm.

Don't get me wrong, I was "born to ride" (along with other BG things), but I don't want the park to toss their brass (garden) roots to the wind just like that.

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02/16/16 at 07:55am in The Future of Europe In The Air
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How hard would it be to do a holiday overlay for Christmas town or Hallowscream using the eita ride simulator. I am thinking of a Santa's flight simulator ride or a haunted hayride simulator ride. Not sure if it is too complicated to pull one film and add another for the different seasons.
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02/16/16 at 09:05am in The Future of Europe In The Air
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Relatively speaking, it would not be difficult. The park would simply need to change the video, reprogram the simulator, and perhaps add some thematic decorations to the queue area.

SeaWorld Orlando actually transforms their similar "Wild Arctic" simulator into "The Polar Express Experience" for Christmas. I think something like that could be wildly popular here in Williamsburg.

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02/17/16 at 04:50pm in The Future of Europe In The Air
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I guess the issue is the expense of filming (or animating) the movie and creating the programming for the simulator to match it. Once that is done, changing out the film and programs should be easy and cheap.

Do you think the demand for such experiences is worth this expense? Plus, of course, the operating expenses.
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