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Alton Tower's Smiler Crashes

09/29/16 at 10:12am in Alton Tower's Smiler Crashes
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(09/29/16 09:56am)Shane Wrote:  I still feel like Gerstleur delivered Alton Towers with a subpar product with a terrible design in the first place.

While the Gerstlauer name may be on the ride, it was John Wardley who designed it (and all of Alton Tower's major coasters). Gerstlauer fabricated and gave them what they wanted.

Quote:On top of that the subcontractor that designed the control system should make sure this can't happen in future installations. In what reality would you want to dispatch even an empty train when the blocks aren't clear?

The subcontractor that designed the Smiler control systems had all the safety protocols in place. They were manually overridden by a park engineer. Any control system at any park can be overridden if need be. In this case, the park screwed up big time by doing that.
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09/29/16 at 11:09am in Alton Tower's Smiler Crashes (Latest Edit: 09/29/16 at 11:09am by Shane.)
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(09/29/16 10:12am)Unagi Wrote:  While the Gerstlauer name may be on the ride, it was John Wardley who designed it (and all of Alton Tower's major coasters).  Gerstlauer fabricated and gave them what they wanted.

I wasn't aware of that. Even so, don't you think Gerstlauer should have known it wouldn't work, and suggested a different layout? The ride regularly failed to complete its circuit.

Quote:The subcontractor that designed the Smiler control systems had all the safety protocols in place.  They were manually overridden by a park engineer.  Any control system at any park can be overridden if need be.  In this case, the park screwed up big time by doing that.

I know it was an override, but I remember reading that depending on who installed the system there are just certain things you can't override. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject at all just throwing in my two cents in the aftermath of it all.

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09/30/16 at 12:28am in Alton Tower's Smiler Crashes
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(09/29/16 11:09am)Shane Wrote:  I wasn't aware of that. Even so, don't you think Gerstlauer should have known it wouldn't work, and suggested a different layout? The ride regularly failed to complete its circuit.

That's on both the park and the manufacturer. Given the tiny footprint and extreme height restriction imposed on the park, they did what they could to get that world record in such a tight space. Unfortunately it's been a nightmare to work with.

Quote:I know it was an override, but I remember reading that depending on who installed the system there are just certain things you can't override. I don't claim to be an expert on the subject at all just throwing in my two cents in the aftermath of it all.

A manual override is actually a safety feature.
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09/30/16 at 02:42pm in Alton Tower's Smiler Crashes (Latest Edit: 09/30/16 at 02:43pm by Gavin.)
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A lot of times the manufacturer doesn't design the ride controls, it is not unusual for the park to do it in house because they want it done a certain way.
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