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04/21/15 at 10:11pm in Kings Dominion Rumors (Latest Edit: 04/21/15 at 10:15pm by ZJhauler.)
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I personally don't think KD is very good at handling the coasters that they currently have. The maintenance side of things seems good, but compared to many other parks they always seem to struggle on the ride ops side of it. I think they'd need to get rid of a coaster to make room for a new one and also properly staff it. That's just my opinion though, it bugs me every time I go to the park. I think they'd need to show CF that they deserve another one including being able to actually increase attendance with it.
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04/22/15 at 12:43am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I would have agreed with this assessment last year, but this year they seem to have really stepped things up.

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04/22/15 at 06:34am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I agree Zimmy. The park has gotten a lot better with ride ops. I've had my fair share of bad KD ride op experiences but that was a couple years ago. On a side note: who the crap thought it would be a good idea to leave 305's second train exposed to the elements, I mean, look at those straps! Some of them are duct taped for Pete's sake.

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04/22/15 at 06:49am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I think Kings Dominion is due to get a new coaster in either 2016 or 2017.

I thought there could be the possibility of the park getting a dark ride in 2016. But, the LA Times article, that interviewed Matt Ouimet about Knott's "Iron Reef" 2015 dark ride attraction, stated that Cedar Fair did not currently have another future dark ride in the pipeline. So, it seems that no Cedar Fair park is expected to get one for 2016. Ouimet also stated that Cedar Fair is in talks with Garner-Holt to possibly get involved in the next dark ride attraction that gets built (2017 or later).

To me, Cedar Fair will do what it thinks is best to draw the most people to visit the park and, more importantly, sustain the visitation numbers long term. Sure, a coaster will always spike attendance the 1st year or two; but, attendance will flatten out. That is why it is just as important to round things out by improved infrastructure and amenities; improve entertainment; food offerings; kid oriented attractions; water park; dark rides; flat rides.

As we are well aware, the kids area was redone last year; the water park gets it makeover this year. Food offerings have taken a big leap this season as well. Seems the entertainment has taken a hit for 2015. Hopefully, CF/KD can figure something out for future shows.

We could use some new flat rides to mix things up and give folks some new experiences. It sounds like Kings Dominion will be getting a dark ride in the next 2-4 years. I would also like to see the asphalt disappear from all pathways in the next 3-4 years. Seems there is still much potential for change in the next 5 years.
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04/22/15 at 07:00am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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Agreed on the asphalt part, take that crap out! However I definitely think KD has had a good 5 years of "rounding out" the park and its time for another coaster... Hopefully

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04/22/15 at 07:18pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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Quote:With no Amusement Dark projects currently in the pipeline, it’s unlikely we'll see any new dark rides added at any Cedar Fair parks in 2016

So there is still hope KD is next in line for a coaster in/around 2016/2017. Which means KD would be last in the pipeline for a dark ride most likely. So in a perfect world we get a new coaster, and a dark ride with all the kinks worked out and implemented with more advanced technology. All within the next 5 years. It is a win-winSmiling
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04/22/15 at 07:23pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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Hopefully another flat sometime in there too!

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05/13/15 at 09:08pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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As we have discussed earlier, Kings Dominion is expected to get an interactive 4D dark ride from Trio-Tech sometime in the near future.

Today, Knott's Berry Farm held a pass member preview for Cedar Fair's second attempt at a Trio-Tech dark ride, Voyage to the Iron Reef. I was seriously holding my breath after hearing the rather negative reviews of Wonder Mountain's Guardian at Canada's Wonderland. However, I am happy to share that Iron Reef seems to have improved upon all of Guardian's faults, and has already been the subject of rave reviews.

First, here's a POV of the ride. The quality is "meh" since, obviously, a large portion of the ride is on a video screen. It should, however, give a decent idea of what the ride is like. I'm legit impressed. It looks fantastic (especially for Cedar Fair).

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Next, here's an incredibly positive review from a former Disney Imagineer:
OC Register Wrote:BUENA PARK – Yes, it is real early in the tenure of Knott’s Berry Farm’s latest attraction, Voyage to the Iron Reef, but the reviews coming in are glowing – including one from former Disney Imagineer Bob Gurr.

This morning, the first riders were allowed to board the interactive, three-dimensional video ride: the media, annual pass holders and special guests. On the attraction, riders dive under a virtual sea to fight against the Queen of the Kraken and save Knott’s.

Gurr, who helped create the Monorail, the Haunted Mansion, the Matterhorn Bobsleds and Autopia at Disneyland, was on hand for Voyage’s opening ceremony on Wednesday and was among the first riders. The company he founded, Sequoia Creative, built Knott’s Kingdom of the Dinosaurs, which sat in the same building as Voyage.

Disney California Adventure has a ride similar to Voyage called Toy Story Midway Mania. Voyage surpasses Disney’s ride, Gurr said, because the ride car doesn’t come to a full stop in front of each screen.

“This is a big step beyond,” he said. “I’m still shaking (with) excitement from what I saw and the CGI imagery and the way the targeting works and the fact that the vehicle is moving at all times.”

Videos playing in the queue area set up the plot line of the ride: A captain was fishing off the coast of Knott’s Berry Farm when he was attacked by the Queen of the Kraken and her aquatic army, who are also devouring the park’s roller coasters. Now, it’s up to riders to help him and save the park by using “freeze rays.”

“The goal is to get completely immersed in it,” said Lara Hanneman, director of entertainment production at Knott’s.

In addition to the 3D videos, the ride is adorned with physical set pieces, such as reefs covered in barnacles and kelp, wrecked ships and a room that elicits an undersea cave the Queen pulls riders through.

Older Knott’s fans might also recognize on some screens “Easter eggs,” including a Knott’s Bear-y Tales ride car and the old Roaring 20s sign.

In video game parlance, the Queen would be considered the “boss,” the final villain who’s harder to defeat than the ones that came before. Prior to meeting her, riders will face puffer fish, eels, jellyfish, crabs and other sea creatures, some of whom require more hits to defeat than others.

Riders can determine where to aim with a colored dot on screen. What color corresponds to which gun is displayed next to the holster on the ride car. When the guns hit an object, ice crystals form, and when a creature is defeated, it shatters into ice.

Hitting the fish garners points, which are displayed on board and at the end of the ride. Scattered among the scenes are also medallions that can be hit to earn bonus points.

The ride exit also has a screen for “Best Players of the Year,” assigning the top five rankings: junior officer, lieutenant, commander, captain and admiral. On Wednesday morning, all top five scores were in the 200,000s.

Unofficial estimates have the ride costing about $10 million, though Knott’s does not divulge the cost of its rides.

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Cedar Fair can go ahead and order one of these for KD's now. (And by that time it may include animatronics!)

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05/13/15 at 09:31pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I really liked it, a billion times better than Wonder Mountain Guardian. I only have two complaints, not enough physical sets, and too much "Pew! Pew! Explosions!" The story behind the attractions is very unique and definetly should have been used more to their advantage. Still, for a Cedar Fair park, that was incredible. Kings Dominion, you know what to do.

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05/13/15 at 11:09pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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Only thing that bummed me out is the lack of a "roller coaster" factor. WMG had a chain lift that led to a drop into the event building. Besides that I'm very impressed with the quality of rides Cedar Fair is aiming to implement in their parks nowadays.
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05/14/15 at 03:56pm in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I have never been a fan of "interactive" rides, Boo Blasters and MIB are two good examples. I recognize this is a very unpopular opinion and I know lots of people who love them. They always seem like a lame ride and a really lame video game have been sandwiched together.

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05/15/15 at 12:32am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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To be fair Boo Blaster is basically an improved carnival haunted house ride. Brightly colored plywood, and cheesy props hanging from a ceiling that is was too high than the attraction requires...oh, and a s*%# ton of black curtains hanging from said ceiling.

Sally Corp designed and built Boo Blaster at all the CF parks, considering they max out around 30 employees I wouldn't expect an amazing ride from them. They mainly specialize in props... Triotech on the other hand is creating their own experiences in a self owned studio, constantly developing new interactive experiences, opposed to just building props.

Technically they're in the same ballpark when you step back and look at the big picture, but Triotech is miles ahead of Sally corp, so comparing the two isn't really fair.
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05/15/15 at 11:06am in Kings Dominion Rumors
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I don't think we can be so critical of Sally Corp. Boo Blasters on Boo Hill is a specific type of ride from Sally. They have also built some pretty impressive dark rides, it is their specialty. They also build beautiful animatronics. Take a list of their entire inventory of Dark Rides and you will see http://sallycorp.com/dark-rides. Some of them are like Boo Blasters because that is what they are supposed to be; some are life like installations. It all depends on what the park wants.

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